This is a home automation product that lets you run a bath or have a shower by voice commands via your voice recognition device and a remote server. It looks like someone put a lot of work into the design, but it seems like a bad idea to have your shower controlled via a remote server (which may be down).
The idea of a glitch or hacker turning your shower on unexpectedly while the door or curtain is open, and flooding your house, or even just splurging gallons of hot water down the drain seems undesirable.
With no physical override it also means that a system crash, fault or hack could leave you with no way to have a shower, bath or even wash your hands.
Then there's the cost of getting a "home automation expert" to repair it. It's an industry flooded with big egos with matching hourly rates.
But Kudos to the people who actually designed and built this unit. It looks like it was a valiant effort to create a functional product, albeit a bit ill-conceived. It certainly looks like it was expensive to develop and manufacture.
The Home Assistant posse do seem to be exploring the protocols of this system to try and get it back up and running on a local network.
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/smartap-shower-control-getting-started-with-reverse-engineering-a-smart-home-device/358251
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16 thoughts on “Smartap – when the internet of things goes down”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @heyarno says:

    Did you search for those chips by name, or reverse image search?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @amiralozse1781 says:

    who in their right mind would buy a piece of marketing joke like this ??
    i mean a faucet thats needs internet connection to work – WHY ???????????

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @uuu12343 says:

    Most of these services that uses a mobile app that allows you to sync with the IoT device and access outside the house uses a protocol called uPNP which is useful – but dangerous as well due to uPNP being literally a direct tunnel past your network firewall

    Just get a VPN server, port forward only that vpn server

    Then whenever you want to communicate with the IoT device, connect to the vpn and do that instead, slightly more setup but safer

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @TsiolkovskySportingLocks says:

    Actually it was mich worse than that. It was possible due to the issues with the API of this product to override the temp cut off so it was possible for an attacker to create a sclading event.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @mushroomsamba82 says:

    Needless complications

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @amcluesent says:

    The cloud is just someone else's dunny

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @amcluesent says:

    The big money is in the Internet of Other Things

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @procactus9109 says:

    It's hardly an internet of things… It's literally a few hing on the internet. Makes more sense that way….
    ToI Thing on Internet, pronounced as Toey

    :p

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @imanoppressedamerican says:

    Welcome to the world of maintenance Clive. Now you know why I cannot stand all these new age companies that have no clue how to keep water away from electricity. Even low voltage is dangerous to my wallet.
    Edit :
    Until these developers force the world into offering free internet and free service for internets' services, I see no use for this technology in the human society. All of this equipment is total trash. When you can run a few pipes have a hot water heater and an electrical connection. You don't need any circuitry. You don't need any circuit boards that can fail. You don't need any of this trash. The human species is allowing big corporations to turn their basic requirements and do something difficult and something that they don't have to stand behind when they're trash equipment gets wet. There's all sorts of ironic issues with having a circuit board controlling all of your things that you being left without hot water to wash your dirty you know what.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @russellsmejkal304 says:

    That single one is to set the temperature outside of the shower

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @KeithWhittingham says:

    The company went bust? Well oil beef hooked!

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @Andrew-lq4ol says:

    Water and Electricity… what could possibly go wrong?

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @MAMDAVEM says:

    I have been into home automation for about 4 years now and I have 3 basic rules that I always follow. 1. Every smart device must have a physical switch in addition to being controllable by voice or HomeAssistant. 2. every smart device must be easily removable and restored to the basic non-smart tech that it replaced. 3. Every device must have local control not cloud based control.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @chrissavage5966 says:

    My limit of tolerance for this sort of stuff is my ‘digital’ shower. It’s not internet connected, control is just local ZigBee and it works great….but yes, one day it won’t work any more, but at least I installed it so know how to replace it. Already had to repair the remote, one of the switches fell off the PCB.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @sincerelyyours7538 says:

    Just get a Japanese tankless hot water heater. They offer perfect temperature regulation; separate programmable max temperature controls for kitchen and bath and have normal faucet controls that even your grandmother can understand. They even have a cute, soft feminine voice that announces when the bath is ready for use and an automatic reheater/recycler to keep the water warm while your family uses the tub. They're also very efficient gas users, last for years with no maintenance required and seldom, if ever, break down. As every house and apartment in Japan has one the companies are not likely to go out of business, too. The only downside is that you might have to wait 15-30 seconds for the shower and tap water to warm up, but it will keep that temperature perfectly for as long as the water is running.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @hsvhel says:

    IoT…..who would have thought

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