Another interesting example of people making products without understanding what they're doing. In this case it's a simple lamp adaptor with a built-in design fault that can make the shell of a bayonet cap lamp-base live. If the adaptor is used in a plastic ungrounded holder this won't be noticed, but it does pose a shock risk due to exposed metal.
If the adaptor is put into an earthed/grounded socket then it will either bridge live or neutral to earth. That will either result in instant RCD/GFCI tripping if live is bridged to earth, or unpredictable tripping if neutral is connected to earth.
When neutral is bridged to earth it can result in some of the neutral current bypassing the RCD and causing an imbalance. That results in the RCD/GFCI issues when a load reaches a specific level, even on other circuits. It can be quite hard to trace, because turning off single pole circuit breakers will not remove the neutral to earth short.
I'm sure there are properly wired versions of these adaptors, but I've bought a few in this style from different sellers and they all had the same issue. It's probably best to test them before use. To test them, set a meter to continuity mode, hold one probe against the metal shell and touch the other probe to each end contact. There should be no continuity to the shell from either of the end contacts.
Also note that these adaptors may not be suitable for tungsten lamps, and are best used with low power LED lamps for thermal reasons.
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If the adaptor is put into an earthed/grounded socket then it will either bridge live or neutral to earth. That will either result in instant RCD/GFCI tripping if live is bridged to earth, or unpredictable tripping if neutral is connected to earth.
When neutral is bridged to earth it can result in some of the neutral current bypassing the RCD and causing an imbalance. That results in the RCD/GFCI issues when a load reaches a specific level, even on other circuits. It can be quite hard to trace, because turning off single pole circuit breakers will not remove the neutral to earth short.
I'm sure there are properly wired versions of these adaptors, but I've bought a few in this style from different sellers and they all had the same issue. It's probably best to test them before use. To test them, set a meter to continuity mode, hold one probe against the metal shell and touch the other probe to each end contact. There should be no continuity to the shell from either of the end contacts.
Also note that these adaptors may not be suitable for tungsten lamps, and are best used with low power LED lamps for thermal reasons.
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Oh China You never cease to surprise us with your complete lack of understanding of what you're making and in particular, other countries electrical standards tick. For instance, this being a cap to small Edison screw lamp adapter, you do run points for the fact you can't touch the metalwork down here, but that's all the point you're getting because in the UK as opposed to the American and other country Edison screw lamp holders in UK and India and other countries, we have the bayonet cap lamp holder. This has a metal surround with two pins in the end and the two pins then should not in any way be connected to this metal. This metal should be fairly isolated to the point that when you put it into certain grounded metal fixtures like chandeliers, then this metalwork here will actually be grounded.
Now this is where things go wrong. Let me unplug this lamp holder before I Go any further because it turns out this lamp holder and that one that there's a bit of electrical issue because if I go onto the outer casing and I touch the contacts, this one has a direct electrical connection to the automatic casing. And that is unfortunate because in a traditional plastic lamp holder when you put it in that does stick out and is touchable and because it's not polarized now in particular way depending on which way you put it in that will either be connected to neutral and be effectively at zero volts with reference to ground or it will be at 240 volts with reference ground which could get quite spicy if you're trying to unplug a lamp. No, Why has this happened? Well, it turns out that they've used a very simple system that is well in their eyes compatible with Edison screw and Bennett cap.
It has this Arrangement where if it was Edison Screw As one wire at the back that goes to the back pin and then the side of the lamp housing with this metal tab connects onto the metal housing of the Edison screw lamp holder. But unfortunately if they use the same thing with the beanet cap lamp holder, but they've added an extra wire onto that and they've put it in. but they've crimped again with that little contact. The little brass contact here crimped against the side of the housing.
so by default, the housing will always be referenced to one of these pins. Now, to be fair, occasionally you get a British lamp. this one came from Asda It's clearly marked Earth fault because it I was demonstrating how bright this new Asda lamp was to my brother when it tripped all the power out to the house because it tripped the Rcd and this one does well. Let me demonstrate, this one does have an electrical connection to the pins.
If I do this. Nope, it's not that direction so it's clearly through the wrecked far so it's on the circuit board. The circuit board is making contact with a case at some point. This does trip the circuit breaker foreign and when you actually put one of these lamp holders one of these faulty fixtures in and they're all like this as far as I can see when you put it into a standard Bennett cap lamp holder, if it's the conventional plastic one like this, all that will happen is that metal will either be live or at neutral, but if you put it into the metal chandelier, it will either connect neutral to Earth which is a bit of a random thing with Rcds or Gfcis. It means that above a certain load you'll get tripping problems or it will do live to Earth which will instantly result in the power tripping. usually the Rcd trips first or the GFCI Uh, so that's quite a novel thing. So a big round of applause to eBay and Amazon and other sort of online sellers for facilitating the importing of stuff that does not in any way get tested for compliance or local standards and just floods onto the market as so much stuff does. a splendid result I Have to say so.
um, yes, that caught me out when I plugged it in and it tripped the breaker and then I was thinking but surely it's not affecting them all and well, yes, it does appear to be affecting them all.
you know what is funny?
We in the so called west came up with all these standards, all these safety measurements and what not. Laws to protect people.
It took how many years for us people in the so called west to think of this?
Why did we even think of it in the first place?
O wait, yes, we wanted to save lives.
And now a days?
Now a days we accept this rubbish.
We really did evolve as human beings.
From primates to human beings.
And back to primates again.
That surely is some kind of progress.
I bought some these from ebay and they tripped my mcb or rcd, after checking with a meter i found they grounded the metal part to one of the contacts on the bottom as you found, and they were mark CE approved, when I complained they said there’s nothing wrong with them.
Nice job Clive 👍
Glad I watched this. I just bought a bunch of these off of eBay
It seems China has these little mishaps including party balloons floating all over the world
I have never been a fan of the Edision type holder as it always makes me feel one might inadvertently touch the metal external terminal while unscrewing the lamp
OMG that's classic lol
I want Amazon to be liable for selling this shit, third party or not!
bigclive…. Do any of these power saving devices actually work as advertised.
Gadgets like PowerSave™ or MD Proelectra or PowerVolt energy saver…
Do any of them actually do "as they say on the tin"..?
When someone gets killed or seriously injured, will it be down to the seller or ebay for allowing this kind of crap to be listed 🤔
I have a good one for you.. I just bought one of those so called water clocks off ebay. they say no battery and it works off ionizing the water etc crap. Well I opened one. It is battery powered and the water only acts as a switch.
I would love to tell the world, but you are in a far better position to do that.
I'll be checking my ASDA LED bulbs in the morning.
I tend to buy older electrical connectors at car boots and flea markets the difference in quality from the old British stuff to the rubbish imports is astounding!
I love, when YouTube recommends me to watch a video, that I already watched yesterday ✌️
Reminds me of a problem with the Edison screw socket. Theres a decent chance they’re wired wrong and the shell of the socket is live.
It turns out this was the case in my childhood bedroom, where there was a miswired three way switch (basically acted as though both switches were in parallel) and to think if I had gripped it too close to the base I could’ve been a goner.
This not helped by the fact that I usually change lightbulbs with the power on so I can see which of many is the one I need to change.
That's the problem with the internet – shops by their supplies from the cheapest vendors. No shop ever checks their products for compliance.